An Exit Interview with N.I.H. Director Dr. Francis Collins (Freakonomics, M.D. Ep. 16)

The National Institutes of Health is the backbone of health research in the U.S., and Collins has been in charge for more than a decade. Now that he’s stepping down, he ponders the arc of his history-making career, from his leadership of the Human Genome Project to the fight against Covid-19 (not to mention the absolute happiest moment of his life).

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